Buying a Manufactured Home: Warranties and How to Handle Issues After the Sell Buying and Selling a Manufactured Home We are continuing our Smart Buyer Series and focusing on the various warranties that may be offered to you while buying a manufactured home and also how to properly handle issues after the sell. We’ve previously covered how to avoid issues during a manufactured home purchase. We want to help you get the best deal and have the best experience possible while purchasing a manufactured home! Buying a manufactured home is an exciting time! You’ve done a lot of research and made a lot of hard decisions to get the home you want. Once you picked the home out, secured financing and patiently waited on the delivery of the home, all the hardest stuff should be over, and it is for most people. However, there’s a small percentage of new homeowners that experience issues with their new homes. It’s a frustrating time to say the least. Here’s a breakdown of consumer complaints recorded for each manufacturer, per 100 homes in Texas during one study year: Southern Energy 8.7 Pioneer 6.9 Cavalier 5.3 Patriot 5.2 Champion/Redmon 5.1 American Homestar 4.6 Schult 3.5 Silver Creek 3.4 Oakwood 2.5 Fleetwood 2.2 Clayton 2.0 Palm Harbor 1.6 Skyline 1.0 Elliott .4 One Families Experience I watched a close family member go through 2 years of utter frustration after buying a manufactured home a few years ago. The entire ordeal was maddening. The home was special ordered and was going to be used as a base on which to build their ultimate dream home. They had bought property on top of a mountain and would be living there while they saved for the second stage of the build: building an A-frame addition onto the front of the home, adding a wrap-around deck and then wrapping it all in log siding. Buying the manufactured home was a huge step in achieving their dream home. From the very beginning there were many issues. In one corner of the master bedroom there was a 1″ gap from ceiling to floor (though it did get closer toward the floor). The 2″ trim around the kitchen counter was broken and chipped but instead of the factory or dealership simply adding a new piece of trim, they glued the many small pieces together and left it. The largest issue began about 6 months after they moved in; a leak formed around the chimney and ruined the ceiling in the den. They paid to ensure the home was level and had professionals document the damage. They did everything they were supposed to do but the manufacturer and the dealer had ultimately failed them. The dealer stated it was the manufacturers issue and the manufacturer stated it was the dealers. The additional insurance policy they had paid extra for, based on the glowing review of the salesman, never panned out either. After almost 2 years of trying, the family gave up, which in my opinion, was exactly what both companies wanted them to do. Some Things to Remember about Home Building Building any kind of home is not easy and even stick built homeowners have a high percentage of issues after completion. The Holmes on Homes TV Show is an epic example of that. They have thousands of people begging them on a weekly basis to fix their stick built home issues! You absolutely deserve the home that you paid for and it should be of the highest quality but you cannot take the issues that you are experiencing personally. The employees that helped to build your home did not intentionally messed up. Construction is a finicky endeavor and even the most experienced carpenter make mistakes. Add several people trying to work in unison and you’re bound to have issues that lead to errors, both minor and major. Manufactured homes have a very streamlined building process that reduces human error significantly. The factory and machinery are optimized down to the smallest nail and this is a much better environment for building homes. Still, mistakes happen. Of course, some manufacturers just drop the ball completely. Poor hiring, production oversight and/or neglected inspection processes allow homes to leave the factory that should not. This causes a lot of frustration for the homeowners. With that said, I believe we should judge a manufacturer based on how quickly and efficiently the issues are remedied and not on the issues themselves. Nothing can be perfect, especially when humans are involved. Home Warranties You May Not Need There’s good warranties and not so good warranties available when buying a manufactured home. The following is an extensive list of the different types of warranties that may be offered during the home buying process. Make sure to read everything and ask for clarification if you don’t understand something. Also, you’ll want those answers in writing. If possible, look for a manufacturer that offers a long-term warranty with few exclusions. If the warranty is on 450 pages with small type, something is off. Inspect it thoroughly. Manufacturers, retailers, installers, and component manufacturers may offer separate warranties, each of which covers a different part of the home. Consumers can have trouble determining who is responsible if problems after the purchase. In Consumer Unions survey, they noticed that mobile home owners who bought directly from the manufacturer had fewer problems with their homes than the owners that bought from an independent retailer or dealer. When you buy direct from a manufacturer, a single company makes, sells, moves and installs your home. Dealing with a single company is always better than 2 or 3. Licensing laws in some states may prohibit direct to consumer sales by manufacturers though so check to see. Although many states require that mobile-home manufacturers offer warranties good for one year or longer, terms can extend to five years or even longer. However, be sure to compare the coverage of a warranty, not just its length. Many exclude “cosmetic” items – the definition of which can be a source of contention down the line. Some exclude important items such as wall cracks, leaky faucets, doors and windows. Others exclude problems caused by moving and installation – one of the most common sources of complaints. Ask for copies of the complete warranty to take home and compare against those offered on other homes. Look at the combined terms of all the warranties that cover a home. Find out what voids the warranty. Sometimes moving or selling the home can void the warranty, as can improper site preparation. Ask the retailer or manufacturer to examine your lot and certify that your site preparation meets the standards required by the warranty. Discover what, if any, regular home maintenance is needed to keep the warranty in force. Beware of Extended Warranties Be wary of “extended warranties.” These are often little more then high-priced insurance products issued by third party companies. Terms of extended warranties may be different then the original warranty, so evaluate them closely. If you are financing the extended warranty, factor in the additional interest cost. Also, read every clause and every sentence. They have a tendancy to have language in their policies that allows them to get out of paying claims easily. Other Things to Consider When Buying a Manufactured Home Watch out for Arbitration Clauses Look out for arbitration clauses when buying a manufactured home. These contract terms limit your right to sue and are far more common in manufactured homes than conventional housing. Ask if the retailer, manufacturer, or finance company uses mandatory binding arbitration clauses in their contracts. If they do, find out the cost to file a claim and who gets to pick the arbitrator. We advise consumers to avoid arbitration contracts that are both mandatory and binding. Check the Companies Quality of Service Get references from previous customers of the manufacturer and retailer. Check more than one, preferably people who have been in their homes long enough to have experienced or used the warranty service offered. You can also check the record of the manufacturer, retailer, and installer at agencies such as the state attorney general or the state manufactured housing agency. This is probably the most important advice I can give you. Buying a manufactured home is difficult but it will be a lot more difficult if you deal with the wrong the people. Escrow of Funds Some consumers report delays in warranty service. If the retailer has already been paid in full, there is less incentive for prompt service. We recommend asking the lender to escrow (i.e. delay payment of) some of the funds for the house until the installation and initial warranty repairs are complete and inspected by a third party. Beware of “Package” Deals Shop around for each component of your package such as insurance, mortgage, etc. Dealers may offer to act as your real estate broker, insurance broker, and mortgage company, but he or she may not be able to offer you the best deal on these services. You’re buying a manufactured home, not a financial advisor. If you need advice, go to licensed and bonded professionals that have no conflict of interest and doesn’t gain anything from your actions. You pay for items in a package deal – prepaid park rent, insurance premiums, even furniture and stereo systems – by adding the cost onto your loan. This will cut into your equity in the home. Given the relatively high interest rates on personal property loans, it will cost you more than the items are worth in the long run. In particular, you will pay less for your property insurance if you buy it directly from an insurance company. If you buy it from the dealer, the cost of one to five years of coverage is typically added to your loan and you will pay significant interest on it. At the end of that initial policy you will need renew or replace your insurance at an additional monthly charge, while your monthly mortgage payments will not decrease. Buying an Used Manufactured Home Buying a Used Manufactured Home Used homes may have a very limited warranty or no warranty at all. Be wary of homes sold ‘as-is’ with no warranty – there may be hidden problems with the home. We advise you to have all used homes professionally inspected prior to any purchase commitment. With that said, buying a used mobile home can be an excellent choice. They are affordable, and as long as the bones or structure is healthy, they are relatively easy to remodel and update. What to Do If You Experience Issues If you have a problem soon after buying a manufactured home, it should be covered under your warranty. Here are the steps you should take to get the fastest results: Organize all your records and document your complaints. Make record of all conversations with retailers, manufacturers, and state and federal agencies from this point on. Contact both your retailer and your manufacturer. Contact information should be in the homeowners manual or other documentation provided at the sale. If you contact a party by phone, be sure to follow up with written notifications to both your manufacturer and retailer. Address the letters to specific people with specific titles to create a clear paper trail. Include your name, contact information, and the label number of your home. The label number can be found on a red seal issued by HUD and affixed to all homes built under their jurisdiction. Keep the letter brief and to the point. Include the date and place you made the purchase, who performed your installation, the serial or model number and warranty terms, what went wrong and any actions you have taken to correct the problem. Enclose copies of your records (store the originals in a safe place), including receipts, guarantees, warranties, cancelled checks, contracts, and any other documentation. Send the letters by certified mail. Some states will require this as proof of notice. If service personnel attempt to perform work, but do not complete repairs to your satisfaction, do not sign off on service orders that state the job has been completed. Where Else to Turn All manufactured homes should be constructed to meet the federal building standards adopted and administered by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD). State Administrative Agencies HUD generally contracts with state agencies (State Administrative Agencies or SAAs) to enforce the code and monitor complaints. If you cannot get your retailer or purchaser to perform the necessary repair work, you may wish to contact your SAA for a complaint form. Contact information should be in your homeowner’s manual and is also available in the appendix to this report. Send the completed complaint form back to the SAA with dated copies of your correspondence with retailers and manufacturers and a copy of your purchase agreement. The agency will review your complaint and send an inspector or district representative out to your home. Follow up if the delay becomes unreasonable. If the agency declines to inspect you home, in some states you have the right to ask for, and receive, an inspection. If the inspector finds your problem to be a result of a manufacturing defect, they will lobby both your manufacturer and retailer to remedy the situation. Even if your warranty has expired, some states will still force the retailer and manufacturer to compensate owners whose problems are the result of a manufacturing defect. Your state may even have a recovery fund with which to fix your problem if your retailer or manufacturer is out of business. Used homes have shorter warranty periods, and your state may only have limited jurisdiction over them. The SAA may also not address issues such as implied warranty and deceptive trade practices. Implied warranties are non-verbal, non-written guarantees that a product is fit to serve the purpose for which it was sold. If the SAA directs the licensee to perform work and it is not completed to your satisfaction, tell the SAA. They may assume the work is completed and close your file if they don’t hear from you. If you have no success with your State Administrative Agency or HUD and you feel the regulatory system was not sufficient to address your problems, be sure to notify your state and federal elected officials. Here’s a few more places that can help you: Better Business Bureau HUD – Complaints for Manufactured Homes HUD – How and Where To File A Complaint HUD – Fact Sheet for purchasers of manufactured homes If your state doesn’t have an agency, contact this office: Office of Manufactured Housing Programs Office of Regulatory Affairs and Manufactured Housing US Department of Housing and Urban Development 451 Seventh Street, SW, Room 9164 Washington, DC 20410-8000 Telephone: (202) 708-6423 or (800) 927-2891 FAX: (202) 708-4213 Summary In closing, manufactured homes get a bum wrap – some companies deserve the poor reputations, some don’t. Not all manufacturers are bad and the manufactured housing industry is a perfect example of how a few bad apples can spoil the whole barrel. A few companies have gained quite the reputation for poor customer service, poorly made homes, terrible lending practices, and overall shady business practices. Leave those companies alone and focus on the companies that do what they should – build fine homes and treat customers right. A little research and a few Google searches will net you the information you need to find the bad apples. Thanks so much for reading Mobile & Manufactured Home Living! Sources: Realty Times Consumers Union BBB HUD Share with your friends and family!Click to share on Pinterest (Opens in new window)Share on Facebook (Opens in new window)Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window)Click to share on Google+ (Opens in new window)Click to share on Tumblr (Opens in new window) 11 Responses Suzanne Melton February 11, 2014 This is going to be quite lengthy but, if you’re thinking of making an offer on a HUD home that is being sold “as-is,” there are a couple lessons here. For a year, we’d been looking at a specific manufactured home build in 1986. It was a foreclosure and was finally put on the market after another foreclosure in the same neighborhood was sold. HUD doesn’t usually list two homes for sale that are close together. In order to bid on a HUD house, the real estate agent sends in my name, my Social Security Number, and my bid. I bid on a Saturday and HUD accepted it on Monday, July 23, 2012. The next day, I got a cashier’s check for a thousand dollars and went to the real estate office to sign the Purchase and Sale Agreement. They FedEx’d the check and the agreement to HUD. HUD needs the check and paperwork within 48 hours of accepting the bid. On July 27, 2012, HUD rejected the Purchase and Sale Agreement. They rejected it because the “Appraised Value” was left blank on the P&SA. The agent (and his broker) left it blank because they hadn’t received the appraisal from HUD. HUD’s response: “We list the house AT the appraised value.” LESSON 1: MAKE SURE THE APPRAISED VALUE ON A HUD P&SA IS FILLED IN. I had to bid all over again. That day, I made the same bid. HUD accepted it the following week. On Wednesday, August 1, 2012, I bought another cashier’s check, signed another P&SA, and the agent FedEx’d them to HUD. This time, HUD accepted the paperwork. I received the first cashier’s check back within a week or so. We “bought” the house in August, 2012 but got the keys to the house on January 16, 2013, FIVE AND A HALF months later. There was a cloud on the title. Escrow kept telling us that HUD will “cure” the problem and convey a clear title. It took SIX extensions, 15 days each, before escrow finally told us that HUD would NOT cure and, if we wanted the house, we would need to sign a Hold Harmless. The three months HUD/escrow screwed around? That cost us almost $6,000 in house and storage rental. LESSON 2: HUD WON’T “CURE” ANYTHING. IF YOU REALLY WANT THE HOUSE, AND YOU KNOW WHAT CURING IT YOURSELF WILL COST, SIGN A HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENT. Think we’re ready to close? Nuh-uh. There’s a repair escrow on the house. The loan is an FHA-guaranteed loan through a bank. The underwriters won’t sign off on the trust deed based on what the HUD inspector says the repairs will cost. The buyer has to get a contractor to review the repair list and come up with his/her own estimate. The banker THOUGHT he told me I needed a bid from a licensed contractor months ago. I checked Angie’s list and found a contractor fairly near to the house with great reviews. This took another two extensions. LESSON 3: IF YOU’RE BUYING A HOUSE WITH AN FHA-APPROVED LOAN AND A REPAIR ORDER, GET A BID — IN WRITING — FROM A LICENSED CONTRACTOR (THEY WILL NOT ACCEPT YOUR BROTHER-IN-LAW WHO DOES HANDYMAN WORK ON THE SIDE) AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. SINCE YOU DON’T YET OWN THE HOUSE, YOU HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH YOUR REAL ESTATE AGENT FOR ALL THREE OF YOU TO MEET AT THE HOUSE. A note about buying a house with a repair order: This order had almost $3,000 in “roof repairs.” I was cruising both Google Maps and Bing Maps one day. I noticed that “our house,” in the Bing map, had a brown roof (and the lot three doors down and across the street was vacant). The Google map showed our house with a blue roof (and the lot three doors down and across the street had a new house on it). I checked with the county assessor and the new house down the street was built in 2007. That means the roof of our house was replaced sometime between 2007 and 2009 when the house was foreclosed. The original inspector of my house saw unrepaired INTERIOR ceilings in two rooms and ASSUMED that the roof was leaking. The contractor’s estimator even told me, “If the roof were still leaking with the rain we’ve had, your ceiling would be on the floor.” I think HUD inspectors are so busy, they just do a quick-and-dirty inspection. LESSON 4: DO AS MUCH RESEARCH AS YOU CAN ON YOUR OWN. THE PERSON WHO CARES THE MOST ABOUT YOUR HOUSE IS YOU! A note about HUD extensions: Each extension is for 15 days. BUT, HUD’s escrow company needs the paperwork from the bank ten WORKING DAYS before the last day of the extension. The last day of the seventh extension was January 3, 2013. That means the paperwork would have had to be at escrow by December 17, 2012. Except that the last day of the sixth extension was December 19, 2012. Without the eight extensions, we would have closed in mid-September. Back before it was freezing. LESSON 5: IF YOU’RE GETTING EXTENSIONS, BE VERY AWARE OF HOLIDAYS. DUE TO HOLIDAY DAYS FOR CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEAR’S, WE LOST ALMOST A WEEK. I hope our experiences help someone. The house behind us just went up for sale. It’s a foreclosed manufactured home and is being sold by HUD. Dave: “Hey! Let’s put in an offer on THAT house!” Me: “I will cut you!” Reply Crystal Adkins February 12, 2014 Thank you so much Suzanne for sharing this! I’m so sorry you went through all this and I’m positive your comment will help many people. Thank you so very much! Reply Brian March 10, 2014 New house should have all the things perfect and the most important thing is this that you should check all the problems like roofing or gutter or shingles the paint etc. These are the most important things you need to check before hiring the house. Liquid roof Reply M Roerig February 15, 2015 Crystal, That was great information… actually, it was a LOT of information. I was left with the feeling that if I purchase a mobile home and have issues, it might become a part time job getting the issues resolved. I am currently trying to decide whether to purchase new or used. Purchasing a used mobile home has the advantage that I can see what I am buying before I sign anything. I can also have an inspector provide feedback. If I purchase new direct from the manufacturer, an inspection of my specific home is not possible until after it arrives and is setup. But more importantly, an inspection is not possible until LONG AFTER I sign on the dotted line to purchase it. With that in mind, I did some surfing and found the website consumeraffairs.com which contains some very harsh buyer complaints. It has been my observation that people are far more likely to take the time to write a review when they have problems rather than when they have positive experiences. So I keep in mind that customer reviews can paint an inaccurate picture. Near the top of your article you indicate that Skyline received 1 complaint per 100 houses sold. That appears to be a rather good rating on your chart, but the very harsh complaints on consumeraffairs.com for the Skyline homes tell me a different story. I agree completely with your comment that any home can have issues and I also agree that a buyer should judge a manufacturer based on how quickly the issue is resolved. However, the complaints on that website indicate that Skyline does not resolve their issues. This causes me great concern. I am considering one of the high end Skyline homes and I don’t want to be the next complaint on a website. I don’t know that I can safely assume that customer service will be any different on a $25K or $125K mobile home. A few questions come to mind: – Is there a website that contains comparison charts with up to date ratings of home quality, service, warranty, and customer satisfaction for the different manufacturers? Your chart at the top of this article is a great start! – For a new home purchase, wouldn’t it be great if I could sign/purchase the home AFTER it has been delivered and setup? That would remove stress and risk. I would be willing to pay a reasonable amount extra for that! The interior photos of the Skyline homes sure look great and I really do want one. But can I buy without risk… Reply Crystal Adkins February 18, 2015 Hello! I didn’t mean to scare you! Unfortunately, I do not know of any website that has collective reviews of manufacturers though I think the Better Business Bureau has a list of complaints (much like the consumeraffairs.com site you mention). If I was a smart woman I would figure out how to create one myself to let readers add their own reviews but I wouldn’t even know where to begin. I wish there was a better process when it comes to inspection and approvals. If I recall correctly, HUD did establish a better national installation and setup guideline so that should help a little. I guess the best protection is knowledge and understanding how the process works. If I were buying a new home tomorrow, I would start speaking with the dealers one on one and have a list of questions that were most important to me. While I was there I would request referrals of previous buyers and call each and every one of them. I would then research complaints online for each dealer and research their rating with the BBB. Then I would start researching the factories and transporters used. That would be the least amount of work I would do before worrying about price or floor plans. Personally, I think the dealer used is a bit more important than the make or model of the home. The dealer is the one you’ll be dealing with most and will be the one that helps remedy whatever problems you run into, not the factory. Of course, all this homework can only tell you how other buyers experienced the process. Though going into the process with your eyes wide open can help you immensely. If you have any more questions just let me know. Please don’t let me scare you from buying a home! Reply Amanda February 28, 2015 This article really grabbed my attention when you told the story about your friend how they eventually gave up after a long amount of frustration. You see that is exactly what my husband and I did as well. We bought our first house from Solitaire as a young couple just starting out and from the time we bought it til 9 yrs later we continue to have window problems. Our windows leak every time it rains (occurred when first bought), it drips from the top til if forms a puddle on my window ledge. I opened my front door one day and an entire window pane fell out on to the ground. Luckily it did not break and i was able to get my dad to help reinstall it because I was to short to reach. As of right now my windows still leak and every time the window blows they make a horrible vibration noise which sounds like they have extreme flatulence. The most help we received was the retailer sent out a man about 4 times as to which all he would do is caulk the window then spree water to see if it was fixed. Of course it would be temporarily fixed every time but by the time it would rain again the window would be leaking. We live in Texas so rain can be very unpredictable and summers always bring droughts. We finally became frustrated and gave up like they wanted. I should also mention that through all of this the retailer went through at least 3 different managers which just added to the frustration. Now that you have my back story here are a few of questions that Im hoping you maybe able to answer. At this point should I even bother trying to contact the manufacturer to see if they will be willing to fix my windows with something other than just caulking them? Or should I just go straight to HUD? Or is 9 yrs really just way to long to have waited to finally readdress the issue? Any helpful suggestions would greatly be appreciated and thank you in advance for taking time to read my lengthy story. Reply Crystal Adkins March 1, 2015 Hi Amanda! I’m so sorry you’ve had to deal with this. It’s an issue that should have never happened. Most manufactured homes only have a 1 year warranty so if anything happens after that first year you’re pretty much outta luck. They do this so that dealerships and manufacturers won’t be responsible for issues that occur due to settling and settling occurs in every home. It’s a catch-22 situation. I understand the liability issues could be disastrous for the companies but us homeowners deserve better protection. On the other hand, manufactured homes actually have better consumer protection than a site-built home. How scary is that? To answer your question, I don’t think you will have any luck getting the help you deserve. The 9 year time frame is simply too long. Perhaps if you filed a complaint about the windows within the first year of owning the home you may have some hope but if you didn’t then I think it’s going to be a lost cause. I hate to even say that and I’m terribly sorry. I’m no expert, but I suspect that either your home has settled causing the window to be out of square and that is causing the leaks and pop-outs or the frame and flashing around the windows weren’t properly installed. Then again, it could be a number of things and without an inspection one would truly never know. If it is a settling issue, you’ll have to have the foundation repaired and leveled before tackling the windows, otherwise you’ll never truly get it fixed. Are you having any problems with your doors? Do cabinet doors open on their own or look angled when they are shut? If so, your home is probably not level. Once you’re 100% positive the foundation is level your windows will need to be completely removed and better framing, caulking, flashing, and sealing (whatever you want to call it) will need to be installed. This should also include headers and king studs that can hold the weight of the windows properly. A waterproof membrane will also need to be installed. You don’t want any water touching the wood frame of your home. Here’s the contact information for Texas. Perhaps contacting them can help you: https://www.tdhca.state.tx.us/mh/contacts.htm https://www.tdhca.state.tx.us/mh/consumer.htm Here’s HUDs manufactured home complaint page: http://www.hud.gov/complaints/manhousing.cfm Here’s a few resources I found that should explain how the windows will need to be re-installed. Special attention will need to be given to the flashing. Maybe if you can prove that the windows were installed wrong you may have a chance of getting the repairs paid. It’s a long-shot though. Inspectapedia is not the prettiest website in the world but their information is great: http://inspectapedia.com/BestPractices/Wall_Leak_Diagnosis.php http://inspectapedia.com/BestPractices/Vinyl_Windows.htm http://inspectapedia.com/BestPractices/Window_Flashing.htm http://inspectapedia.com/BestPractices/Windows_Doors_Best_Practices.htm (about halfway down is a section on installing vinyl windows) http://inspectapedia.com/interiors/Air_Seal_Project.htm Other links you should read: http://www.motherearthnews.com/diy/install-your-own-windows-zmaz05djzsel.aspx http://www.finehomebuilding.com/design/departments/energy-smart-details/airtight-window-installations.aspx Again, I’m sorry you have had to deal with this. It’s not fair to you or your family. If there’s anything else I can help you with please don’t hesitate to ask. Good luck! Reply ask April 23, 2015 Thank you, I’ve just been looking for info approximately this subject for a long time and yours is the greatest I’ve discovered till now. However, what concerning the bottom line? Are you certain in regards to the source? Reply Crystal Adkins April 23, 2015 Hello! Can you be more specific with your question? I’m not sure what you mean. Thanks! Reply colleen galids July 22, 2015 I am having a problem with my roof shingles they are melting down my house purple the roof shingles are gray I contacted the manufacturer they told me to contact the shingle people after several rounds with them they offered me $500 for the shingles that’s the least of it its putting a new roof on who would be responsible for this I’m not getting any help I called the man who sold me the home he refuses to call me back I have a Commodore it was a $42,500 home and I have a streak roof all the sand particles are on the ground Reply Crystal Adkins July 27, 2015 Yikes! So sorry to hear your having issues Colleen. What you are experiencing as far as customer service seems to be the standard in the industry. It’s always someone else’s fault! If your home is still under warranty write letters to the dealer, builder, and shingle supplier and send them via certified mail. Keep a record of all communication and evidence of the issue, keep it professional but stern, and don’t give up! If it’s out of warranty, your only option may be the shingle manufacturer (especially if the shingles are warranted for a certain amount of time, usually 10 or 20 years). If the boards and felt under the shingles are OK and there’s no signs of damage or leaking, you may be able to just replace the shingles and everything be OK. If there is damage under the shingles you’re gonna have to get it repaired ASAP so that it doesn’t further damage the home. Keep all the receipts and ask the shingle manufacturer to reimburse you. Be willing to negotiate with them. Not giving up is the most important advice I can give you. They don’t want to make it easy for you because issues like yours cost money. Best of luck to you! Let me know how it goes and thanks so much for reading MHL! Reply Leave a Reply Cancel Reply Your email address will not be published. Name* Email* Website Comment Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Notify me of new posts by email.